Response to Hariri
In the previous comments, I was asked the following:
You need to talk more about the ugliness of the American administration. I think you hate the Jihadists more than those who killed and enslaved and continue to enslave your people, the African-Americans. You think all the spread of guns and drugs in the African community is not planned by the White masters of America to keep the Africans ‘down’ and controlled???
Wake up and smell the coffee, my friend. You seem unable to see past what FOX news airs to you.
The entire point is that blacks - particularly black men - need to do something for themselves and their communities instead of being encouraged to do nothing but constantly complain about “the man” keeping them down and to participate in even more evil
As for a plot of the “white masters” then you - being Palestinian - should know that many of your own countrymen here in the US are taking part in this so-called “plot” as in many black neighborhoods, alcohol and drugs would not be found except that Palestinians are selling these things. The message is: Come support our businesses, support our cause and we will piss on you in return. Afterall, we know how much Palestinians think of blacks
Instead of complaining about some wild “plot” where the white man is secretly littering the streets at night, forcing the blacks to do drugs and drink alcohol and being encouraged to be flunkies for someone else’s national cause - much less the very people’s cause that is selling them the alcohol and drugs - blacks need to be cleaning up their own situations.
Raising young boys to be responsible men is a little more of a priority for blacks than running off to join some reckless bloodbath that knows no bounds in its insanity.
Why should they be encouraged to keep their neighborhoods and families in complete chaos? Why should they be encouraged to make their situations worse? Why should they be encouraged to create chaos on the earth and take part in some insane cause to do nothing but rape and murder? Is it better to tell these people to learn to make something of themselves and their families or be pawns in some insidious plot? At the end of the day, more of them would end up in jail and no good to their families who need them. Ahhh, yes, exactly what these people want!
Yes, encouraging them to bring more insanity and bloodshed back to a hurting community is really an “Islamic” answer isn’t it?
People like Zawahiri do not care about blacks, Latinos, whites or anyone else. They care about killing, stealing and rape
Filed under: Black American Muslims, Children's Issues
Careful, akhi. You’re on the verge of committing a sin against the 6th Pillar of Islam - Filasteen!
Good reply, I got a headache just trying to read his posts. I just gave up.
First, a few words to the 2 who commented here before me:
“Marc”, no one ever said that Palestine is the 6th pillar of Islam, so please stop mocking our religion and have some respect and sanity before you speak. No one asked you to support Palestine and Palestine alone, Allah asked us all to support every oppressed Muslim people. The Prophet told us we are like one body, if one part of it becomes ill, the rest of the body suffers from fever and lack of sleep. But apparently you are either non Muslim or your fiqh is extremely shallow or just non-existent. Palestine is a Holy Land, like Makkah and Madinah. So says the Quran and hadiths. It’s also made ‘holy’ by becoming a territory once conquered to Islam, i.e., to the Rule of Allah. Just like al-Andalus, we should get it back. It’s Allah’s land, those who deserve it most are His true slave-servants. It doesn’t not deserve to have the killers of Prophets and innocent children and women and unarmed men to govern it, i.e., the Jews. It was made a waqf land, giving up a hand span of which was declared haram by Muslim scholars throughout the centuries. I wonder where you’d know this stuff before talking like that, so why don’t you go learn more about our religion before you speak and embaraess yourself like that? Palestine is an Islamic land, the rights of a Sunni Muslim Sri Lankan or African in it are more than those of a native Christian Palestinian. Why? Because the land belongs to Allah, and Allah entrusted us as His viceregents in His land, only us the true monotheists. It’s not about blood or language, it’s about Tawheed and worshipping the One and the Only. It’s interesting that mention a “6th pillar of Islam” when referring to Palestine. I have to say you weren’t so completely off, for indeed Muslim scholars said that ‘jihad’ was almsot going to become the 6th pillar of Islam! This would probably explain to your likes why it is that the jealous and the religious Muslims care so much about Palestine, Kashmir, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosova…, it’s for them very close to them caring to perform their five daily prayers (which you sound like you don’t observe regularly, because from the signs of Salaat on the soul is humbleness, softness in the heart, enough fiqh so as not to mock the deen and disregard the feelings of TEN MILLION hurt Palestinians, 250 thousands who died since the establishment of Israel to free their land or as they battled the agent Arab rulers around Israel defending it like the destroyed King Hussain of Jordan.
As for you “Um Abdullah”, don’t be so sure, it could be just ‘that time of the month’ that made you feel sick
What does someone like you know? Show me where I was wrong in what I said. Show some ‘ilm, puh-leez, O Um Hawaa (Whims) and Jahl.
Ok, since I find myself continuing to write more than I expected I would, let me address one part of your post, Tariq:
what’s about with your childish logic, my brother? How old are you? What is with this “since you are Palestinian, many of your countrymen take part in the plot”!!!
First of all, that’s like me telling you: “you Black guy scare me! Becaue the other day I got robbed by a bunch of Black thugs in your city”.
How is me being Palestinian making me responsible for the actions of 100 or 1000 or 100,000 Palestinians anywhere in the globe, be it in my city or in Palestine or in your city?
Where did you learn to think like that, my brother?
I can’t believe I have to teach so many people on these blogs just how to use their brains, and I don’t know how I have to push you to ‘read’ or ‘follow’ other than what FOX news and MEMRI show you!
The plot I talked about, Mr. Nelson, isn’t about who is selling drugs in the streets (for there are many Blacks who do that too, you know, so -following your logic- should I accuse you of being a drug dealer now or seek to put you to shame becaue some people who belong to your ethnicity are drug dealers??? The plot is more hidden for the naive laymen to find easily. It employs all kinds of tricks and all kinds of professionals to make it sneak into people’s lives with their least notice. It can be just facilitating the spread of drugs and not fighting it sincerely like, for example, Taliban did (something which the UN testitied to, whether you like that bit of news or not, it’s well documented). The plot is not only about the drugs, Mr. Nelson. It can be even the rap music and all that attracts the youth and make him want to think everything but ‘White’ (like all of your blogs say about Black culture).
The conspiracy to keep ignorant and lax the majority of peoples with high numbers in the US, or the rich countries with stratgetic locations and high human resources like the Arab and Muslim worlds, this conspiracy is far greater than for a mere blogger to detect -when all he does is spend his day commenting on news from the mainstream Zionist-dominated media, which feeds him ONLY the news THEY want him to believe or know.
You fail to keep in mind, Tariq, like many of the rashful other fellows here, that those in power and in control of the media are UNDER ABSOLUTELY … NO … OBLIGATION to tell you the real news. Why? Who are you? You are not even advertising on their channels! They don’t need your bucks! They need you to be checked, contained, controlled, absorbing what they want you to absorb, and rejecting what they want you to reject. For God’s sake, even the ‘electric car’ they didn’t want you to get, Mr. Nelson. They killed it just becaue it’s against their interests, and you want to tell me they would make tens of millions of African Americans aware of the scheme to keep them in control?
How sad, that your faculty of mind would be reduced to believing your enemy, and make you turn against your coreligionists based on the acts of ignorants and the ill-breds who happen to have lived where my ancestors lived one day. What would you be saying here if the Arab world was all one country? You would tell me “Oh, some of you Arabs are selling drugs to us Blacks over here”, when those Arabs might be from Morocco and I’m from Palestine myself (not that I’d still be responsible for even the actions of my father!!! If I’m different from him, then I don’t represent him and he represents only himself).
Cheap shot, to attempt and want to make me feel bad for something I didn’t do
Allah says: {every soul, for what it has earned [i.e., of bad deeds] will be retained [i.e., held responsible]} (74:3 
and He (swt) also says: {And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another} (6:164).
This is ABC Islam. Why don’t you learn it first before starting a blog and embarass yourself like that, showing how little you know of the basic akhlaq of Islam and knowledge of it?
Referring to me only with “Hariri”, without ‘brother’ before or anything to show you’re at least ‘trying’ to be nice or remain on good terms (when I clearly said nothing wrong or offensive; if anyone did then it’s all you Blacks and other reverts who disected the Black culture like it is the real Terrorist threat on these blogs!!!)
And for your information, we’ve always had blacks in Palestine, and I myself know of 2 Palestinians who married black Arabs (Sudanese) in my city, and 2 others from before in the Arab country I came from. If you just want to make an enemy of us because of the actions and sayings of the ignorants and the uneducated and the ill-bred who happened to belong to my country or my race, that’s very ignorant of you. You yourself wouldn’t want to be included in the over-generealizatons about Blacks in America. You don’t want to be thought of as a robber everytime you walked close to someone, or that you have a gun somewhere or that you play basketball day and night and that you have babies you don’t know about (now or before Islam). Your race suffers the most number of stereotypes ever, so don’t subject other people to it.
And admit being wrong. Have humbleness. Go read something that softens the heart in you, and stop having so much enmity toward people who never met you. There are racism betweens Arabs, from one country to anotehr, one city in the same country to another, one tribe to another, one profession to another, and also one color to another. People won’t marry their daughters to a blonde plumber, but they would marry her to a dark-skinned successful engineer with kinky hair. You can’t deny that, if you were to at least look at the cultural Arabs. It is the height of ignorance to deny that such an example wouldn’t take place based only on mere colors!
I have wasted enough time, unbelievable, trying to make grown ups (probably parents themselves) how to think, how to not be so judgemental and hateful toward others, particularly those they don’t know. Unbelievable and pathetic.
Now, this wasn’t the first time I read accusations by some English-speaking Muslims about the al-Qaeda terrorists being rapists!! I don’t remember one instance of there being proofs to that. The only rape cases heard of were perpetrated by Americans and the Shia of Iraq! So, for the sake of accuracy, and your own credibility (which that ’sister’ from your previous post wouldn’t refer to like she referred to mine, out of sheer bigotry maybe and partisanship, taking your part against mine because of how I sound or maybe because she thinks I belong to a different line of thinking -being at least a born-Muslim maybe? Hmmm). So, just like you cite in your posts from websites and stuff, at least find us a netural source that documents terrorists are also rapists!
You seem to have never read for these Jihadists or seen their videos. We differ with them on their methodology. When he tried to appeal to other races in America, he was aware of something you’re not aware of, the Anglo-Saxon hegemony over the world, which Britain willingly handed over to the US after WWII. Indeed, and like I said before, anything that weakens America’s grip on our homelands is welcome. But since you hold America as your homeland, I can understand why you can hold so much enmity toward the Jihadists. Unfortunately, they think the only way to free the land of Islam from Morocco to Indonesia is to cut the head of the snake, then all the tails will fall off.
What you should blog about is convincing them this isn’t the right way. Because they think the world will be a better place without America altogether!
Also remember, that if they cared about killing, we’d have heard about them killing, for eample, their families first, their friends, bombing their own cities, then adjacent ones, then bombing in Pakistani streets, universities, bombing in Afghanistan during the Taliban’s rule, or perchaps just shooting like the American way in high schools and universitis (oh, point worth mentioning: did you ever come across one instance of a terrorist attack in an Islamic school or university or an Arab university or academy? Hmmm, if they are bloodthirsty, and they are everywhere, logic dictates that we would have seen examples of their carnage inflicted upon their own people, the innocent ones, way before targetting America!
You should blog about ways taught to America to spread peace in the planet, and not ‘freedom’! Peace! Teach America how to seek peace, not democracy in the world! And trust me then the Jihadists would go away and me and you will enjoy life in the West.
I can see why you people are seriously lacking in Islamic knowledge and knowledge of the history of the region. I see no excuse for your lack of fiqh (being converts, at least you should be more excited than born-Muslims, no?), but about being ignorant of history, geography, cultures,..that’s just the typical American way. You are ‘too far from it all’, so you will have so many already on these blogs laughing at the importance of Palestine, joking about it being the ‘6th pillar’, and being willing to hand it over to the Jews like, sadly, Umar Lee offered in one of his posts!
Serious lack of fiqh and knowledge.
So keep educating us in the American way, about the trivial news, and keep the real stuff away as we pursue the ‘American dream’, so who cares about the non-Americans or the Muslim ‘fobs’ in their own home countries?
If you don’t have sympathy for Palestine despite the well documented proofs to the catastrophe it suffers, I can never believe you or even the non-Muslim Westerners who claim to care about Darfur (where we have no photos or any kind of document from credible, neutral source, about racial tention or massacre).
Allah knows that my heart bleeds for my brothers and sisters in Darfur, not because I fell in the Zionist, neo-Conservative trap about Arabs ethnically cleansing Darfur, but because I see the hungry and the poor and the thirsty among them and I can’t do much to them nor can you. Allah knows that if I could join a da3wah organization to spread Islam in Africa only, I’d dedicate the rest of my life there. That’s how much I love Africans, but you are a blind, rashful hater of Arabs, it seems. You should hate the ignorance in them, not them as persons. We never claimed we are still the sahaabah, the purest of mankind after the Prophets of Allah.
Pathetic, wallahi. What do you want? Spread knowledge or hate among Muslims? Go teach America to leaev our countries alone, to give us the right to elect our rulers. Let us enjoy seeng our countries are being built and our citizens allowed to be educated and heavy industries allowed to start. To think that its something inherent in us that keeps us backward is very ignorant. Read about the World Church Council, it being one of his goals to prevent Muslim nations from becoming industrial nations, according to the confessions of a former Coptic pirest from Egypt who embraced Islam!!! I think you wouldn’t have thought of this one, huh? Conspiracies against our countries have to be on FOX news for you to believe, huh? They have to be presented to you in a fancy way from a rich TV station, announced by original kafirs. But your Muslim brother writing in your blog is the object of your mockery and criticism.
Now if you’ll allow me, I have the others in your second last post to respond to, then I will gladly choose not to waste anymore time here. I’m just never the one to run away from a debate, but if the one in front of me is not humble and likes to remain ignorant, I also like to spend my time somewhere else.
Oh. and keep my comment as long as you are addressing me in your post above. Don’t delete it for whatever reason.
Salaam ‘Alaikum
Did you really just crack a crude “time of the month” joke to a Muslim woman? Itaqullah wa itubu ‘alayh. Unbelievable.
It all makes perfect sense now. We need to forget about our problems and concentrate on establishing a Palestinian state
I asked you in the post before that if we gave ourselves to your cause, then what would we be told after the establishment of the state of Palestine? Go home and clean yourselves up
Oh, I missed that. Really nice……
UmmZaid,
She was ‘rude’ to me first, so I won’t mind a joke so ‘crude’. She deserve it.
Farooq,
your turn is coming in that post, so just don’t rush ur rizq. it’s coming.
“brother” Hussam,
Actually I don’t raise the issue of brother Tariq’s credibilty not because you are “born-Muslim” and we are both converts. Tariq’s credibility isn’t at stake here because of what he says and the way he addresses people — even you, for that matter — with at least a modicum of respect. In fact, I am impressed that he has allowed you such ample room on his blog to exhort and insult every “non-born Muslim” in the wrold.
Salaam Alaikum,
PM